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In 1984, I talked my aunt into taking me to the World SF Con in Anaheim (LA Con II) so I could meet Wendy and Richard Pini, the creator and publisher of Elfquest. We paid full memberships so I could walk around sweating blood for three hours at the "End of the Quest" party before I finally approached Richard. He told me they weren't looking to hire anyone, or invest in new books - and I replied that I didn't want a job, or an investment. I just wanted them to know who I was.

I showed him my work, and said that they had inspired me, and I was going to do what they had done, and start my own comics company.

And a year later, I did. A year after that, my company, Fantasy West Publications, was an exhibitor at San Diego.



We started with a mail-order comics company (and briefly rented an old grocery store for eighty bucks a month as retail space, where we sold comics, Louis L'Amour western paperbacks, and Corn Nuts), and started building a war chest to publish comics. The retail thing was difficult to handle (being full time students) and the mail order was mostly an exercise in learning design (the catalogs and order forms) and business (having wholesale accounts, and paying taxes).

We paid for our tax license with an advance from my paper route; and we got audited our first year (but had all our records, so that was basically a day out of school.)

I got a credit line with a printer to print the first issue of my comic, PRYDERI TERRA, as well as four art prints; I got a banker to give me a loan get a booth at the San Diego Trade Show and Comicon; and I talked my aunt into driving and generally chaperoning me, my business partner Jimmy, and fellow comics aficionado Bryan. Everything was in place - except when we picked up the nice van we were driving to San Diego in, we realized it had no hitch for the U-Haul trailer (which would carry the books and prints, as well as the displays we'd constructed in my mother's barnyard).

So we traded the nice comfy van for a U-Haul truck, which staggered across the desert, arriving late in San Diego the night before the show.

Our hotel, the venerable U.S. Grant, had sold out its rooms - including the one my aunt prepaid for. So they gave us the only thing they had left: the Presidential Suite.



Three teenagers and a designer moved into a gorgeous space which became one of the main selling tools of the week. If I was presenting the work to a hesitant retailer, I'd suggest he not decide right then at the Con - but should come by the Grant afterward for drinks in my suite.

They'd show up, wondering if it was all a joke - then I'd ask if they preferred Pepsi or Dr. Pepper, and did they want to sit in the living room or dining room? And then we'd usually make a sale.



It wasn't all charm and chandeliers - I had some serious doses of cold reality about how a publishing business was run, starting with the realization that the standard wholesale price would net me about two cents per book less than the printing cost. And this was after the printer had lost an overlay with the issue number and price on it - meaning we had to buy 10,000 white round stickers and write $1.75 on them.

There were a few days that were really rough, as I realized I was quite possibly in a real mess. The saving grace was that I'd gone about promotion the right way - exhibiting at Comicon - so all the distributors knew who I was, saw my books, and ordered them like they'd ordered all the other B&W books. They even sold quite decently - because despite the so-so writing and iffy cover, some of the art inside (while raw) was respectably cool. And as I point out to students on school visits, done in the SAME STYLE I still use today.



I made relationships then that I still have now: Bill Schanes, now the Senior VP at Diamond, had only been there six months in 1986. I met many other comics artists who are friends to this day, like George Perez and Charles Vess. And I took my first serious steps to becoming a true professional.

We went the next year as well, with more savvy and experience. We had a nicer booth and color posters, and bigger plans. The second issue of PRYDERI was never published (but twenty pages saw print as a preview in THE COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE), since my art was developing faster than I could revise pages. I moved into more commercial art, doing things for some hefty Hollywood-type companies, but kept my hand in comics with a few unproduced proposals: SILAS MARNER, for First's Classics Illustrated line; and a Superman project I called STARCHILD.

Those two projects were merged (converting the Silas Marner material I'd done, with the name of the Superman project) into what, in 1992, became STARCHILD the series.

Next: Now and Then; or, Back To The Future

Comments

[info]goraina wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:02 pm (UTC)
That is awesome! I bet you're glad you took pictures!
[info]coppervale wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:07 pm (UTC)
I'm in the middle of doing stuff for this year's comicon, and the nostalgia is overwhelming. Sometimes it seems like a million years ago - but sometimes, I remember it like it just happened.
[info]kevin_standlee wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:08 pm (UTC)
L.A.con II was my first-ever SF convention, and I went there for about the same reason as you -- to attend the "End of the Quest" party and meet the Pinis, who I idolized. I didn't have anyone to take me, however, and had to take the Greyhound from Marysville to Sacramento to LA to Anaheim. I was the guy in the "A PINI for your thoughts" t-shirt, and was thrilled when they ran a picture of me wearing it in the "extra" 21st issue of the original Elfquest comic book.

An eventual fall-out of that weekend was that I ended up running the MythAdventures Fan Club, organized on similar likes to the Elfquest Fan Club. That gave me a bunch of the organizational skills that were useful in organizing SF conventions.

To this day, I hold up the 1984 Worldcon as the standard against which I measure other Worldcons, including the one I co-chaired in 2002.
[info]coppervale wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:17 pm (UTC)
Kevin, that's awesome! I know just the photo you're talking about!

Do you still have the program book? Wendy did a sort-of Elric-y piece with a prose poem called "The Mad-Eyed Sorceror".

It inspired me so much, the title of that first PRYDERI issue was "The Mad-Eyed Sorceror", as was the first issue of STARCHILD.

In 1995, when a bunch of Warp employees realized I'd never met Wendy, they dragged me over to her booth where I gave her a hardcover of STARCHILD and told her the story. She was so impressed that she sent me the ORIGINAL ART for "The Mad-Eyed Sorceror", and it's on my office wall now.

And to close the circle completely, I wrote the intro to the second DC ELFQUEST archive book, telling this very story.
[info]kevin_standlee wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 12:25 am (UTC)
I do indeed still have that program book, although it's currently in storage.

I'm such a fanboy sometimes. Indeed, I have to stay clear of Elfquest material nowadays, lest I go into a relapse. :) Although I do admit that having to actually do the detail work of running the fan club cured me of some of the worst of the foam-at-the-mouth fanboy elements. Still, you have to be a little crazy to set out to bid for a Worldcon. One of my biggest motivations was to "pay forward" the favor that fandom did to me in 1984, and I hope I never lose the memory of the sensawunda of being among so many friends to whom I hadn't yet been introduced.
[info]coppervale wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 01:30 am (UTC)
You're a good guy, Kevin!
[info]lisamantchev wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:17 pm (UTC)
If I was presenting the work to a hesitant retailer, I'd suggest he not decide right then at the Con - but should come by the Grant afterward for drinks in my suite.

Absolutely brilliant, that.
[info]coppervale wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:51 pm (UTC)
I know several retailers bought books just because they suspected I had to have SOMETHING going to be in that Suite.

Personally, I loved having a phone in the bathroom.
[info]lisamantchev wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)
Personally, I loved having a phone in the bathroom.

That's for calling for room service from the tub (the way it OUGHT to be done.)

Speaking of which: need bubble bath and room service now. *L*
[info]coppervale wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:58 pm (UTC)
I used it to call my mom.

Then I decimated the bathroom with water, because I'd never seen a jacuzzi tub before, and didn't realize it had to be FULL before turning on the jets.
[info]lisamantchev wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 12:04 am (UTC)
Then I decimated the bathroom with water, because I'd never seen a jacuzzi tub before, and didn't realize it had to be FULL before turning on the jets.

*hee* Well, you've learned since then.
[info]scribblerworks wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:36 pm (UTC)
You are precocious, dangerous, devious, obviously majorly persuasive, persistent, visionary, ambitious, and I pity anyone who accidentally gets in your way. And if you weren't so incredibly charming and vastly entertaining, I might be able to get mad at you for being such a provoking diversion. Alas, that's not possible.


Someone gave you magical powers, didn't they?
;-) :-p

Hmmm. Did I mention brilliant and talented, generous and kind? No, I thought not.
[info]coppervale wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:52 pm (UTC)
That's a great post... *sniff*
[info]scribblerworks wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 12:22 am (UTC)
Modesty, however, is not one of your virtues.

Hee.

;-)
[info]victoria_lane wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:39 pm (UTC)
It's remarkable how much of the same stuff inspired us. I can't draw worth a damn but I was able to copy cat Elfquest's style rather decently.

I gave up writing for a six year stretch after an incident...somewhere between 1986-87 and focused on performing.
[info]coppervale wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:53 pm (UTC)
PRYDERI was magazine-sized just so it would match ELFQUEST.

That was the same year they went comic-sized. :/
[info]thisisnotanlj wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:43 pm (UTC)
Loving these posts. Glanced at the photo in the first one and thought, wait, was he at Stumptown? Then I read it...
[info]coppervale wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)
LOL! Back then, DC had a bare table covered with buttons and some posters.

I'm hoping to hit Stumptown next year.

Glad you like the posts, Sara!
[info]tltrent wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 12:36 am (UTC)
How fun! Only a few years later, Richard Pini judged our local con's high school writing contest. Guess who won? Guess who got to walk around the con at Richard's side fangirling him and feeling all important and awesome at age 16? *grin* What a cool connection and what an awesome entrepeneur you are! :)
[info]coppervale wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 01:32 am (UTC)
Having done that intro closed a huge, huge circle for me.
[info]tltrent wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 01:18 pm (UTC)
*nods* I'm a big fan of closing circles wherever possible.
[info]jkcarrier wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 01:26 am (UTC)
What a cool story! I had no idea you'd had a brush with the comics biz that far back. Clearly, you were The Man With The Plan, even back then.

Nice hat. :)
[info]coppervale wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 01:32 am (UTC)
The hat was the precursor to the vest. ;)
[info]barbiehead wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 01:46 am (UTC)
This is one of the most impressive things I've ever read.
[info]coppervale wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 01:52 am (UTC)
Thank you, dear. Very kind of you to say!
[info]brithistorian wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 11:27 am (UTC)
This was wonderful! As someone who's still (in my mid-30s) trying to figure out the answer to "What do you want to do when you grow up?", I have great admiration for people who know at such an early age exactly what they want to do and then are able to actually do it.
[info]coppervale wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 03:47 pm (UTC)
Thanks. A lot of people think I've gone in a lot of directions with my work - but it's been pretty much a straight line for two decades.
[info]plattcave wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 02:08 pm (UTC)
Wow -- now I need to track down a copy of PRYDERI!
[info]coppervale wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 03:47 pm (UTC)
We can arrange that. ;)